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Remove smoking smell

  • 25 Jan 2015 7:56 AM
    Message # 3209561

    How do you get the smell of cigarette smoke out of a house? 

  • 25 Jan 2015 10:39 AM
    Reply # 3209608 on 3209561
    Deleted user

    Timely post! We recently completed a rehab in old Irving and had a house that had a strong cigarette smoke smell... We replaced all of the carpet (which we were going to do anyway), washed the walls, then painted the walls... We also got some of the activated charcoals and placed them out throughout the house... These things really helped but didn't completely remove the odor. I don't have an answer on how to completely remove the odor...

    The good news for us is that our buyers were smokers too so it ended up being a non-issue :) 

    Good luck! 


    Brian R. Baker, MBA

    Texas Housing Partners LLC.

  • 26 Jan 2015 7:17 AM
    Reply # 3210048 on 3209561

    Hi Bruce,

    It's not easy and normally takes a combination of several things for the best results.  If you are doing a complete rehab it's much easier and your chance of success is much increased.  Remember what the challenge is - smoke goes everywhere and sticks to everything in the house.  The longer they smoked in the house the harder its going to be and the more work involved.  Here are a few steps to consider, if done correctly will work to remove most if not all smell.

    Get a ozone machine (hire a fire damage/restoration company) to start with which basically sucks the oxygen out of the house which kills the bacteria that causes the smell.  Be sure to open all cabinet doors if you do not plan to replace them.

    Rip everything out of the house possible depending on the extent of your rehab i.e. carpet, padding, cabinets etc.  The more you can remove the higher chance of success.

    Kiltz (primer sealer) everything including the floor.  This must be done thoroughly to ensure success

    Call your friendly HVAC repairman and have the central blower unit squirrel cage removed and cleaner and the coils.  You will also need to have ALL the air ducts cleaned and sanitized or replaced but may be a huge costs to replace.

    Anything not removed from the home such as hardwood floors, wood cabinets not being painted will have to be cleaned thoroughly.

    If done correctly, you will be in pretty good shape.  The less of the steps above you can accomplish the less chance of success.

    Hope this helps.

    Tim

  • 27 Jan 2015 8:33 AM
    Reply # 3211200 on 3209561

    Don't waste your money on having an ozone treatment. It is junk science. Sure, the extra oxygen atom will bond with other molecules and change their composition, but which molecules will it bond to. You would have to know all the compounds and elements present to determine which ones it will most easily and quickly bond to. In addition, it will also change compounds that are beneficial or at least benign and possibly make them harmful.

    Do a google scholar search for articles or simply go to the EPAs website for a full explanation.

    Recommendation of ozone treatments is an often repeated suggestion that is at best based on anecdotal evidence. From my experience, it will make a temporary difference during the first week until all of the ozone has decayed. After that period the odor returns. 

  • 27 Jan 2015 10:04 PM
    Reply # 3211829 on 3209561

     Thanks for the information.  Mr. Cox, did you try the ozone treatment and find that it didn't help?  Have you done something else?

  • 28 Jan 2015 2:03 AM
    Reply # 3211906 on 3209561

    Bruce,

    I have used an ozone treatment once. I bought a house last year that an elderly lady owned and must have smoked 2 packs a day in. The property had an ozone treatment before purchase due to the odor and the treatment came with a warranty. After closing I called the company that did the treatment. They came out and treated the entire house again. Three generators for 24 hours in a 1600 sqft house. Left the house closed for 4 days following the treatment. On the fifth day you could still smell ozone with a hint of smoke odor. By the seventh day the ozone was gone and the cigarette smoke odor remained as strong as it was previous to the treatment. Before the treatment the carpet and pad had been replaced, the walls and ceilings had been primered with Kilz and then painted with 2 coats. All other surfaces had been scrubbed with Pinesol. After the ozone treatment I had the air handler removed and cleaned, and had the ducts and grilles cleaned. Cleaning the air handler improved the odor somewhat. Cleaning the duct work didn't make a difference. Tim's other suggestions are spot on.

    I was able to lease the house quickly without receiving negative feedback about the odor. I did put 3 plug in air fresheners in the property that used a liquid and when I showed the property I always arrived early to open all the doors to let fresh air in.

     

    In the future, it will have to be a very sweet deal before I buy another property with a strong cigarette smoke odor. The expense of trying to abate the odor and lost rental income due to the extended prep time were excessive.

    Best,

     

    Howard Cox  

  • 28 Jan 2015 12:57 PM
    Reply # 3212310 on 3209561

     Thanks for all the great information!

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