Dallas-Fort Worth Real Estate Investor Club

Off-Market, Discounted Properties in Arlington/Fort Worth

  • 15 Mar 2018 3:36 PM
    Message # 5980883
    Deleted user

    I am looking for cash investors in Arlington/Fort Worth area of the metroplex to add to my investor list. I sell 30-40 distressed and often off-market properties each to cash investors who are looking to either flip and sell or hold them as rental properties. These houses need rehab and work done to them in order to bring them to the top of the market, but that only means they have great equity. If you're interested, please leave your email in the comments. For a quicker and more direct response please direct message me your phone number. These houses come and go quickly so time is of the essence!

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  • 15 Mar 2018 10:49 PM
    Reply # 5981376 on 5980883
    Robin Carriger (Administrator)

    Hi Logan,

    Welcome to DFW REI Club!  I just want to clarify a couple of things.

    • You work for New Western Acquisitions.  Right?
    • In order to sign a contract to purchase one of your properties, a potential buyer must put up a non-refundable deposit of $5K.  Right?

    Thanks,

    Robin

  • 16 Mar 2018 10:07 AM
    Reply # 5982202 on 5980883
    Deleted user

    Robin,

    That is a great question. You are correct, for an investor to contract one of our houses they are required to put down a $5k deposit on the house they are intending to purchase. This is a standard practice for not only New Western Acquisitions, but for all wholesalers in the DFW. The goal with the $5k deposit is for investors who say they are going to close, to actually close on the property. The only way to truly insure this, just like in Residential Real Estate, is having the buyer put down money and have "skin in the game". Without this then the contract is meaningless and very much unenforceable when you really look at it. Often we are dealing with delicate situations where the seller may be facing foreclosure so insuring that the buyer will close is extremely important. The $5k is however refundable if we are not able to get clear title from the title company. In investment real estate this can happen and we never would make someone close on a unclear title.

    Thank you for the question and we always appreciate what you do for investors in the area. I always speak very highly of your meetup and its content.

    Best,


    Ben Cowling 

    682-300-0672

    General Manager 

    New Western Acquisitions 

  • 19 Mar 2018 10:28 PM
    Reply # 5988397 on 5980883
    Robin Carriger (Administrator)

    Thanks for the confirmation, Ben.  You're right that an up-front, non-refundable $5K fee required in conjunction with contracting to buy a property is a standard practice used by most wholesalers, including New Western.  But there are other ways that I personally prefer.  For what it's worth, I've done more wholesale transactions than I can count, I've never asked for an up-front fee, and I've only had a problem with a buyer not performing one time.  It was years ago, I learned from that experience, improved the language in my wholesale paperwork, and haven't had that issue come up again since then.  BTW, I've also never paid an up-front fee to a wholesaler even though I've bought multiple deals from wholesalers.


    The primary objection I have with the up-front fee is that so many new investors aren't able to do their due diligence quickly enough in independently determining the cost of needed repairs/updates and feel pressured to trust the valuation and repair cost estimates of the wholesaler as he says to the nervous newbie, "Hey, don't worry about it.  I have appointments scheduled with other potential buyers about every half hour all afternoon who are very interested in this property.  If you're not ready to buy this one, maybe I'll catch you on the next one."


    This might still be fine for the newbie investor if the After Repair Value (ARV) and repair cost estimates of the wholesaler could always be trusted, but, sadly, the ARV estimates of wholesalers are often optimistically high, and the repair costs are almost always woefully underestimated.  I've talked with way too many new investors who either broke even or lost money doing deals that way.


    Please note that I am most assuredly not rendering an opinion one way or another in this public forum on whether you personally, Logan, or anybody else at New Western or any other specific company intentionally or unintentionally misleads investors with inflated ARVs and/or underestimated repair costs.  What I am saying is that those who decide to pursue deals from wholesalers (most of them) who charge an up-front fee of multiple thousands of dollars better put on their "big boy" pants, pull & analyze their own comps before they leave home, and be ready to thoroughly evaluate a property and make an offer on it the first time they see it.


    Buying investment Real Estate from wholesalers who send emails to LOTS of potential buyers is a combat sport.  Part of the way I define my job as the President of DFW REI Club is to make sure those who think they want to play the game understand the risks, the rewards, and the rules.

  • 20 Mar 2018 11:06 AM
    Reply # 5989315 on 5980883

    Thank you Robin,

    I lost a lot of money purchasing this way and will never do it again. It is basically the blind leading the blind.

    It makes no sense to be $5k into a home before it's been inspected by anybody besides the person trying to sell it to you, who, by the way, is also not experienced at such things. 

    I'll keep this one short, but I've got a whole novel in this forum about this exact topic. Look up "due diligence" in here for some good reading. Especially good for newbies.

    Patience is a virtue.

    AJ

  • 21 Mar 2018 12:01 PM
    Reply # 5991146 on 5980883
    Robin,


    Thanks for taking the time to articulate a response. Well said.


    I will add this though. People like myself, that are new to real estate investing, should take notice of New Western. They are a good example of what an effective real estate marketing campaign can produce. They are finding deals weekly. Probably you can safely estimate that they paid 20-30% less than the price they are offering a property for sale. So, I kick myself every time they find a deal in one of my areas of interest. 

    Happy hunting!








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