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  • 03 Jan 2011 8:07 AM
    Message # 488474
    Deleted user

    I am looking for advise as I recently received bids on a fix for rental on a home we purchased in November. After getting several bids which were close, I chose one of the real estate club sponsors that sponsors multiple clubs. I was surprised when I received the work contract that they expected about half the payment upfront prior to any work completed. Our company policy does not allow payment upfront. I was really looking for more established companies used to working with investors. To me it is a red flag if a company can’t perform work without payment upfront. I am wanting to understand what others think. I am not new to real estate investing and have NEVER had a company ask for money upfront unless it covered materials already purchased, never labor prior to performing work.

    Last modified: 03 Jan 2011 8:07 AM | Deleted user
  • 04 Jan 2011 12:30 PM
    Reply # 489310 on 488474
    Robin Carriger (Administrator)
    Jean Sullivan wrote:

    I am looking for advise as I recently received bids on a fix for rental on a home we purchased in November. After getting several bids which were close, I chose one of the real estate club sponsors that sponsors multiple clubs. I was surprised when I received the work contract that they expected about half the payment upfront prior to any work completed. Our company policy does not allow payment upfront. I was really looking for more established companies used to working with investors. To me it is a red flag if a company can’t perform work without payment upfront. I am wanting to understand what others think. I am not new to real estate investing and have NEVER had a company ask for money upfront unless it covered materials already purchased, never labor prior to performing work.


    For context, we've always been our own General Contrator on our rehabs, and we haven't done much GC work for others.  If I were to hire a GC, I'd start by asking other experienced investors for references.  I'd have to be really impressed with the reputation of a GC to pay them half up front.  With the understanding that GCs have a different business model than subcontractors, other than materials, we've never paid a subcontractor anything up front.  The subcontractors that we've worked with a lot don't even ask us to pay for materials up front even when they're fairly expensive.  We know they're going to to a good job, and they know we're going to pay them.  Good relationships like that are extremely valuable.

    One exception to my reluctance to paying half up front is foundation work.  We've had foundation work done on multiple houses, and we've used various reputable foundatin repair companies over the years.  As I recall, virtually all of them required 50% payment up front.  We paid it and would do so again when using a foundation repair company we trust.

    Another thing to keep in mind is that active, experienced GCs who do a lot of jobs for a lot of people value their own good reputations very much and will typically go the extra mile to make their customers happy.  That knowledge, along with some strong success stories from investors you know and trust, might give you some comfort on this.

  • 04 Jan 2011 1:09 PM
    Reply # 489337 on 488474
    Deleted user
    I just wanted to expand the companies I use, so I selected a company that sponsors several RE investor groups and had also gotten references from people who had used this company.
    I have several contractors/sub-contractors I know and trust they were all busy and this company said they could start right away, so I wanted to give them a try. I am also trying to get out of the role of GC'ing my properties now that I have that experience, I would like to move on (another reason I selected the company I selected). The contract ask for $2600. two days prior to start up. The entire contract only had $1530 of material. I will never pay labor upfront, but would have paid for material as soon as delivered. I was really looking forward to working with this company, but now I won't use them.

  • 09 Jan 2011 11:39 PM
    Reply # 492519 on 488474
    Deleted user
    Hi Jean,

    I would love to help you out on your latest project. Our company policy usually dictates a draw schedule that work well for most investors. We are a tun key company and can handle any size rehab. Our references will speak for themselves, but I will say we are going to always provide a quality service that 99% of the contractors in town cannot.
    Please give me a call,  we can start immediately 817 466 2474

    Thanks
    Tom
    DFW Make Ready LLC
  • 11 Jan 2011 8:53 AM
    Reply # 493417 on 492519
    Robin Carriger (Administrator)
    Tom Deere wrote: Hi Jean,

    I would love to help you out on your latest project. Our company policy usually dictates a draw schedule that work well for most investors. We are a tun key company and can handle any size rehab. Our references will speak for themselves, but I will say we are going to always provide a quality service that 99% of the contractors in town cannot.
    Please give me a call,  we can start immediately 817 466 2474

    Thanks
    Tom
    DFW Make Ready LLC

    Do you ever require payment for labor before that labor has been performed?
  • 12 Jan 2011 9:22 AM
    Reply # 494167 on 488474
    Deleted user
    We do not require it as long as there is a weekly draw schedule set up, but we have required it in the past. Some  new clients dont feel comfortable depositing funds upfront, and other we dont feel comfortable not receiving funds upfront.
    Last modified: 12 Jan 2011 9:22 AM | Deleted user
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